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  • From: paul fons <paul-fons@aist.go.jp>
  • To: forum@abinit.org
  • Subject: Re: [abinit-forum] Pseudopotentials
  • Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 07:58:30 +0900

Let me start out by thanking you for your hard work on atompaw.  It is greatly appreciated by myself and I am
sure many others on this list.  I am also happy to see the rapid development of atompaw.  Your comments in your last
two emails have been most helpful.  I shall look forward to hearing more when you have time (I know how busy schedules
can get!).  I have enough to get started now and am closing in on the "needs to be tested by the user..." part of your
recommendations! 

Thanks again,

Paul


On Apr 17, 2007, at 9:49 PM, Natalie Holzwarth wrote:

Dear Paul,
     Some comments are listed below:

On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, Paul Fons wrote:

   I was attempting to go through the examples on the Lake
periodictable.html).  On the Lake Forest page, the downloadable
potentials seem to be of two flavours as reinforced by the somewhat
cryptic label "Modified Elements" and "Unmodified Elements".  I
didn't find a reference anywhere as to what these terms meant (pardon
me if it was just my oversight).     We are trying to update the webpage
which was created in 2005 by a summer student, using the more recent
version of the programs.   The "modified elements" are the ones we have
worked on so far.      Of course, even if we have worked on an element, it
still needs to be tested by the user....


I was curious to follow up on the mail by Natalie Holzwarth. First,
the general guidelines in her email appear to be useful and provided
some new information to me that I hadn't considered (e.g. the
inclusion of positive energy states).  I wanted to take this
opportunity to ask a couple of (what I hope aren't too) simple
questions.

1. On the Lake Forest periodic table of PAW potentials, most of the
potentials (the "unmodified" ones?) seem to use PS of the Trouiller-
Martin norm conserving form using the Blochl scheme.  This would
appear to have the advantage that there are fewer parameters to tweak
(I am assume this is also its disadvantage!).  The new entries seem
to use T-M PS, but with the Vanderbilt scheme.

I was hoping that Natalie (or another person from her research group)
would be so kind as to comment on the advantages/disadvantages of the
two techniques.

In my own experience, the Bloechl scheme gives projector and basis
functions that "look" better when you plot them in real space, but often
the Vanderbilt scheme generated functions seem to converge faster in
Fourier space (smaller ecut or gcut).  I have no idea why this is.
Usually I just use one value of rc for everything, but Marc Torrent has
shown that you can get much better agreement of the logarithmic
derivatives if you adjust the matching radii for each wave function...


2.  On the Lake Forest page, there is the comment  "In addition to
the manual prepared by Marc Torrent, notes on the method are
available. (" The link pointing to the manual is dead while the page
I can find on the abinit site would seem to be (http://www.abinit.org/
PAW/AtomPAW2Abinit-Manual-html/HolzwarthPAW.htm) which appears to be
a one page summary of how to compile the program and a couple of
input files are included with a one line of explanation of what the
input lines mean in a particular file, but there is not comment that
I could find as to the logic of how to choose parameters or even what
the naming scheme is for the different output files are. These two
examples also both use the VNCT keyword (Blochl scheme Trouiller
Martin PS).

   Thanks for some advice in advance!


For constructing the local pseudopotential, the default (no extra key
word but specify l e) is to use the traditional Troulliers-Martins scheme
at angular momentum l and energy e.   I recommend that you choose l to be
one larger l-value than that of your basis and projector functions and the
energy can be 0.   Mark Torrent has introduced some additional key words
to fine tune the local potential.    For the projectors and basis
functions the key word BLOECHL is the same as the old VNCT and VANDERBILT
is the same as the old VNCTV.   Mark Torrent has also introduced some new
options here in such as way to be backward compatible.    In trying to
explain all this, it is clear that we should try to make this easier for
the users...    some day when we find some time....   In the mean time,
thanks for your patience and we always appreciate your feedback.

                                              Natalie





Dr. Paul Fons
Nano-Optics Reseach Team
Team Leader
National Institute for Advanced Industrial Science & Technology
METI
Center for Applied Near-Field Optics Research (CANFOR)
AIST Central 4, Higashi 1-1-1
Tsukuba, Ibaraki JAPAN 305-8568

tel. +81-298-61-5636
fax. +81-298-61-2939



N. A. W. Holzwarth email: natalie@wfu.edu
Department of Physics www: http://www.wfu.edu/~natalie
Wake Forest University         voice: 336-758-5510
Winston-Salem, NC 27109-7507            fax: 336-758-6142
U. S. A.

Paul Fons
Team Leader
Nano-Optics Research Team

Center for Applied Near-Field Optics
National Institute of Advanced Industrial Technology
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Tsukuba, Ibaraki Japan 305-8562

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fax. +81-298-61-2939

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