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- From: Matthieu Verstraete <mjv500@york.ac.uk>
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- Subject: Re: [abinit-forum] phonon eigenvectors/polarization
- Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 13:03:43 +0100 (BST)
fun with phonons.....
I am dealing with a multiple atom per unit cell system. My questions are with respect to obtaining the polarization vector. It seems to me that the polarization vector should be proportional to the displacement vector. Is this correct?Do you mean the phonon normal mode eigenvector or the electrical polarization? (probably the former, but you say "the polarization") In a multi atom case it's more complicated, as the displacement vector component is renormalized by the mass for each atom, wrt the phonon eigenvector.
I ask this because I believe the polarization vector should be the same for each atom for a given mode/q point.Not at all: for optical modes and 2 atoms per unit cell the atoms move in opposite directions. For more complex structures like perovskites you have rotational modes of whole blocks (tetrahedra, octahedra) of atoms. The eigenvector of 1 mode at 1 qpoint has 3 components for each atom, and they can be in any direction a priori (constrained by the symmetry irreps of course).
Also, I observe imaginary displacement components for nonzero q. What is the physical meaning of an imaginary displacement component. Is the physically observable displacement the complex magnitude or is it just the real component of the displacement vector?For non zero q, the displacements have to be multiplied by a phase factor exp[iq(r+R)], then norm-squared, to get the actual displacements of an atom in any given unit cell R. The complex character of the components of the matrix comes from the generalized way the perturbations are calculated. For all of this, see Xavier and Changyol Lee's 2 prb papers in 1995 I think, or Stefano Baroni's Rev Mod Phys (don't have the refs on hand, but they are cited in the abinit article and on the web site)
Matthieu
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- phonon eigenvectors/polarization, Patrick B. Hillyard, 04/27/2007
- Re: [abinit-forum] phonon eigenvectors/polarization, Matthieu Verstraete, 04/28/2007
- Re: [abinit-forum] phonon eigenvectors/polarization, Patrick B. Hillyard, 04/30/2007
- Re: [abinit-forum] phonon eigenvectors/polarization, Matthieu Verstraete, 04/28/2007
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