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  • From: "Zhang, Waigen" <wg.zhang@okstate.edu>
  • To: <forum@abinit.org>
  • Subject: RE: [abinit-forum] negative elastic constant
  • Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 11:45:17 -0500

Dear Wu,
I really appreciate your reply. Right now I am struggling to make outputs seem
more reasonable.However,no theoretical data are available now and all the
structural
datas are from experiment for the material I am working on.
The results from ABINIT seem not so agree with experiment. I checked the
convergence
and still the answer seems not so friendly,not only for these elastic
constants.I am
wondering how much should I trust my calculation,comparing to the experiment
datas.

Best,
Zhang,Waigen


-----Original Message-----
From: Xifan Wu [mailto:wuxifan@physics.rutgers.edu]
Sent: Wed 5/2/2007 10:38 PM
To: forum@abinit.org
Subject: Re: [abinit-forum] negative elastic constant

Hi Waigen,

The physical elastic constant (relaxed-ion one) will be coupled with the
pseudo-inverse of the force constant matrix through the internal-strain
matrix. The output shows that there is probably a negative eigenvalue of
force-constant matrix in your system, which means that the energy is not
at the global minium point with respect to the ionic displacements and
means that the claculated structure maybe not physical stable, or maybe
wrong, or the calculations is not converged yet, etc.

You could check the input structure, the convergences. And you could also
take a reference at the paper, PHYSICAL REVIEW B 72, 035105(2005) and
maybea good way to make sure the calculation is correct is try to
reproduce some numbers already been calculated.

good luck,

Xifan Wu

On Wed, 2 May 2007, Zhang, Waigen wrote:

> Dear all,
> I hate to ask question about Physics concept,but....
> I calculated the elastic tensor with DFPT(monoclinic structure),and the
> outcomes are
>
> Elastic Tensor (relaxed ion) (unit:10^2GP):
> (at fixed electric field boundary condition)
>
> 1.1283604 -3.1643805 -2.0347373 0.0000001 1.3721603 -0.0000001
> -3.1643805 -13.2059771 -2.2664645 0.0000000 0.4939964 0.0000000
> -2.0347373 -2.2664645 -0.0102671 0.0000000 0.7978253 -0.0000001
> 0.0000001 0.0000000 0.0000000 -1.1180576 0.0000000 -0.7148172
> 1.3721603 0.4939964 0.7978253 0.0000000 -0.5816261 0.0000001
> -0.0000001 0.0000000 -0.0000001 -0.7148173 0.0000001 -2.3463341
>
> Unstable eigenvalue detected in force constant matrix at Gamma point
> The system under calculation is physically unstable.
>
> Dose that mean the structure is mechanically not stable? If so,can I say
> that this structure will transfer to some other structure without any
> external force?
>
> Thanks a million.
>
>
> Zhang,Waigen
>

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