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- From: Xavier Gonze <gonze@pcpm.ucl.ac.be>
- To: forum@abinit.org
- Subject: Re: [abinit-forum] convergence test
- Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:47:01 +0200
On 04 Oct 2007, at 06:38, waigen zhang wrote:
Dear all,
I am not sure if this problem asked by somebody else or ...
As far as I know, ecut and kpoint convergence test is needed before any physical calculation. How about if we keep changing the pressure (volume)? Say if pressure=0 GPa. ecut=20,ngkpt=4X4X4 is enough. How about when pressure=100 GPa (say volume is 50% of zere pressure volume)? Should we
double check the ecut and ngkpt before any calculation?
If we need to check the convergence when volume changes(beyond the ecutsm effect),is there any good way to do that?
Regards,
WG.ZHANG
Dear Waigen Zhang,
First a comment ...
As a general rule, the convergence with respect to ecut and k-point sampling (and tsmear, in the
case of a metal) must always be checked FOR THE SPECIFIC PROPERTY in which one is interested.
(To make it clear : if you want to obtain some property, be it phonon frequencies, piezoelectric constants,
or transitions pressure, etc , within 1%, it would be wrong to determine the ecut and k-points
by checking that the total energy is within some tolerance ... unlike sometimes advised ...)
So, independently of an answer on your e-mail, I suggest you should define for yourself which
property you are interested in, and understand its level of convergence.
Theorists like experimentalist should be able to deliver error bars on their results.
Well, with a decrease of 50% of your volume, the band structure might be strongly affected : a gap might
be decreased by a factor of two, or perhaps a insulator to metal transition will occur. Due to such effect,
the k point sampling (+tsmear) might have to be changed a lot between 0 GPa and 100 GPa.
Of course, perhaps not ... but you should
definitely check (for the property that you are interested in !).
Concerning the ecut, since it is a property mostly related to the pseudopotential, it should not be affected.
However, an a posteriori check will not hurt.
In both case, if you see that the behaviour of the property of interest is rather smooth, I would advice to check
convergence only at the end points of the pressure range, namely 0 GPa and 100 GPa. On the contrary,
if you have several phases, please check the k point convergence (+tsmear) for each of them.
Best,
Xavier
- convergence test, waigen zhang, 10/04/2007
- Re: [abinit-forum] convergence test, Chao Cao, 10/04/2007
- Re: [abinit-forum] convergence test, Anglade Pierre-Matthieu, 10/04/2007
- Re: [abinit-forum] convergence test, Xavier Gonze, 10/04/2007
- Re: [abinit-forum] convergence test, Chao Cao, 10/04/2007
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