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  • From: "Zhenhua Zeng" <myid520@163.com>
  • To: "forum@abinit.org" <forum@abinit.org>
  • Subject: Re: Re: [abinit-forum] Inconsistent phonon frequency between out file andanaddb
  • Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:47:44 +0800

Dear Matthieu,

Thank you for you reply.

I know where the problem come from now. I.e. for a slab calculation,
the frequencies of GAMMA point are the projected frequencies from gamma to L
point in bulk,
so acoustic modes are not necessary zero at GAMMA point,
and ASR may give wrong results for slab calculation.

I know you are good at phonon and el-ph coupling,
and have the paper on the influence of s-o coupling on phonon and energy band
of Pb.
Then several question about these:
[1] Did you calculate the phonon of Pb slab too? If yes? Do you have the
similar results?

[2] The abinit version i used is 5.3.4. Does it include the s-o coupling for
phonon calculation?

Best Wishes
Zhenhua Zeng

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From:matthieu verstraete
sent::2008-11-10 21:59:30
To:forum@abinit.org
Subject:Re: [abinit-forum] Inconsistent phonon frequency between out file
andanaddb

>
>On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 3:41 AM, Zhenhua Zeng <myid520@163.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I'm callculating phonon of Pb(111) slab: 6 ML Pb with a vaccum about 12
>> \AA,
>> I found that
>> [1] the result printed out in the out file are not consistent with the
>> results of anaddb.
>> [2] I.e. the results in out file seem meaningless.
>>
>> For example the phonon at gamma point:
>> out file(cm-1): 3.754035E+01 3.922919E+01 3.951580E+01 4.177673E+01 ....
>> anaddb (cm-1): almost zero almost zero almost zero about 1.0E+01
>> ....
>
>anaddb imposes the acoustic sum rule, whereas abinit (in the single q phonon
>run) does not necessarily (not by default). The ASR error is quite large in
>your case (30cm-1) and shifts the other modes quite a lot too. It's probably
>correct, though, but you should check.
>
>
>
>> [2] why anaddb can give a 'reasonable' result, even though frequencies in
>> the out file are so bad?
>
>because the ASR error is systematic, and is subtracted out everywhere by the
>ASR correction. I should write up a note about this, 1 question out of 20 is
>on the same problem.
>
>
>
>> These parameters are ok for the phonon calculation of bulk Pb.
>
>in principle you should re-do convergence studies for the surface, but I
>suspect it should be ok. Check what the in-plane Fermi-surface is like!
>
>Matthieu
>
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