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- From: Stefaan Cottenier <Stefaan.Cottenier@ugent.be>
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- Subject: Re: [abinit-forum] lda+U experience
- Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:20:57 +0100
Dear Matthieu,
This reply does not concern abinit itself, and the methods that are described take a pragmatic rather than a rigorously theoretical point of view -- so far the disclaimer ;-) :
> I am using LDA+U with the latest (pre-release) abinit 5.7,
> on ifort 9.1/itanium/mpi (tests pass fine), trying to do
> calculations in LDA+U of alloys of d and f metals (which I
> cannot name for confidentiality reasons).
I refer to two papers of our previous work that deal with isolated lanthanide and actinide impurities in bcc Fe, which can be considered as a dilute d-f alloy (albeit with the difference that the space available for the f-atom is much smaller than in a typical d-f alloy). There is a lot of information in these papers along different story lines. You might find something there that is relevant for you:
Hyperfine interactions at lanthanide impurities in Fe
D. Torumba, V. Vanhoof, M. Rots, and S. Cottenier, Phys. Rev. B 74, 014409 (2006),
DOI:10.1103/PhysRevB.74.014409
http://link.aps.org/doi/10.1103/PhysRevB.74.014409
Hybrid exchange-correlation functionals applied to hyperfine interactions at lanthanide and actinide impurities in Fe
D. Torumba, P. Novak, and S. Cottenier, Phys. Rev. B 77, 155101 (2008), DOI:10.1103/PhysRevB.77.155101
http://link.aps.org/doi/10.1103/PhysRevB.77.155101
The 2006 paper deals with LDA+U on lanthanides in Fe exclusively. The 2008 paper has LDA+U on actinides in Fe, as well as B3PW91 (hybrid functional) for lanthanides and actinides in Fe.
> For pure f metals
> I have reference values of U and J, and the f states are at
> the correct position,
You might check this against the internally consistent procedure to determine U for lanthanides (Fig. 5 of the 2006 paper). In my experience, lanthanides in whatever environment can be described by such a value for U. For actinides, the value of U is more dependent on the environment. (Your confidentiallity concern does not allow to guess whether you are interested in 4f or 5f... ;-) ).
> but in mixed systems the f states tend
> to alloy, broaden, and end up just below the Fermi level
> (2 eV instead of 10 eV below), and are relatively insensitive
> to U. This makes sense if the states are less localized, but
> still it's strange: experimentally the f peak in these systems
> is still found at -10 eV... So:
I'll send a slide to your private email, where you see a plot of the DOS for Er in Fe -- LDA+U (upper) and LDA (lower). The horizontal scale is in eV, and the Fermi energy is at zero. The broad (itinerant) LDA-peaks get more structured due to LDA+U, and are shifted downwards by about 2 eV for a filled spin channel and are heavily split for a partially filled spin channel.
> 1) is this hybridization physical?
> 2) has anyone seen this before?
To 1) and 2) : In our experience, the hybridization between 4f and 3d is -- even in this case with small Fe-lanthanide distances -- by far not as large as is given e.g. by LDA. Still, hybridisation is there and can be described by crystal-field splitting. It also depends quite a bit on the flavour of LDA+U (can you use a different one, and does that alter your results?)
> 3) is there evidence that U for a surface is different from U for a bulk?
Yes. I have unpublished work on this, which I never tried to pour into a paper because the comparison with experiment was getting too tricky. It was for isolated Fe atoms on a Ag surface. Pragmatic ways to estimate the U clearly showed an increase towards the surface. And that's not too strange: surface atoms are 'halfway' between bulk and isolated atoms, hence more tendency towards localization and a larger value of U is needed.
> 4) is there a way to increase U or something, to force the band to the "correct" position?
In the two papers quoted above, we ran into a similar problem as you probably have: LDA+U does not give the type of solutions that on physical grounds would be expected. We had to 'force' it into the 'proper' solution. See section B.2 of the 2006 paper for 'constrained density matrix' calculations. Perhaps you could use something like that.
Best,
Stefaan
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