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- From: "Nuno Jorge Lopes Galamba" <ngalamba@cii.fc.ul.pt>
- To: forum@abinit.org
- Subject: Re: [abinit-forum] about supercell and MD
- Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 18:19:21 +0000
Dear Xie Yuanliang,
ABINIT can make molecular dynamics much as any other ab initio molecular dynamics code although there are differences relative to other codes. Of course there are also many differences between different (other than ABINIT) codes. ABINIT allows carrying out what can be called Hellman-Feynman MD simulations. This means that forces on the nuclei are obtained via the Hellman-Feynman theorem every time-step. This is a striking difference from Car-Parrinello MD (CPMD) with obvious computational costs since in the later the energy functional is not minimized every time-step. Other than that both ABINIT and CPMD both use plane-waves and pseudopotentials. On the other hand since plane-waves are used rather than localized basis functions, allowing to apply the Hellman-Feynman theorem, this is also different from what is frequently called Born-Oppenheimer MD, which uses localized basis functions and therefore the Hellman-Feynman theorem cannot be applied. These different denominations are obviously not the fundamental issue, rather, the approximations involved are. Thus one can find first principles or ab initio MD simulations using very different schemes most of which motivated by the need for less demanding force calculation algorithms under a DFT description. I think ABINIT is not specially devoted to this issue and therefore large systems are in my view prohibitive. I have carried out MD simulations of ABINIT of NaCl and NaI (64 atoms) and they were obviously very demanding, however other systems can be much worst. This shall depend, broadly, on the one hand on the number of valence electrons in your system and on the other on the plane-wave cut-off you need to have reasonably converged forces. As for the second part of your question this is not difficult. All you need is to have a set of positions and velocities for your atoms and to set the acell variable as to obtain the desired density. Thus you simply treat acell much as if it were the size of the MD box (supercell), rather than the length of the primitive cell. The computations can, for a supercell, be carried out on a single k point (0,0,0) and you are all set. If you can parallelize ABINIT in terms of nbands things can improve, I would guess, although I have never used ABINIP. Please note I have limited experience with ABINIT, and you may want to check with other ABINIT users. Take care. Nuno Galamba Grupo de Física-Matemática da Universidade de Lisboa. Portugal On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:51:24 +0800, Yuanliang Xie wrote > Dear all, > I want to know if ABINIT able to do molecular dynamics calculation for a very big super cell as other ab initio molecular dynamics codes. Moreover, how can I make a supercell in a single point energy calculation with ABINIT? > Thanks. > > Xie Yuanliang > SYIAE, Shenyang, China |
- [abinit-forum] about supercell and MD, Yuanliang Xie, 03/08/2009
- Re: [abinit-forum] about supercell and MD, Nuno Jorge Lopes Galamba, 03/08/2009
- Re: [abinit-forum] about supercell and MD, Yuanliang Xie, 03/09/2009
- RE: [abinit-forum] about supercell and MD, DORADO Boris Thésard, 03/09/2009
- Re: [abinit-forum] about supercell and MD, Yuanliang Xie, 03/09/2009
- Re: [abinit-forum] about supercell and MD, Nuno Galamba, 03/09/2009
- Re: [abinit-forum] about supercell and MD, Yuanliang Xie, 03/09/2009
- Re: [abinit-forum] about supercell and MD, matthieu verstraete, 03/09/2009
- Re: [abinit-forum] about supercell and MD, Yuanliang Xie, 03/09/2009
- Re: [abinit-forum] about supercell and MD, Nuno Galamba, 03/09/2009
- Re: [abinit-forum] about supercell and MD, Yuanliang Xie, 03/09/2009
- Re: [abinit-forum] about supercell and MD, Nuno Galamba, 03/09/2009
- Re: [abinit-forum] about supercell and MD, matthieu verstraete, 03/09/2009
- Re: [abinit-forum] about supercell and MD, Yuanliang Xie, 03/09/2009
- RE: [abinit-forum] about supercell and MD, DORADO Boris Thésard, 03/09/2009
- Re: [abinit-forum] about supercell and MD, Yuanliang Xie, 03/09/2009
- Re: [abinit-forum] about supercell and MD, Nuno Jorge Lopes Galamba, 03/08/2009
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