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- From: Xavier Gonze <xavier.gonze@uclouvain.be>
- To: forum@abinit.org
- Subject: Re: [abinit-forum] phonons atomique displacements, complexe phase and amplitude
- Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:41:20 +0200
Dear Emmanuel,
The eigenmode characterizing a phonon should always be thought as a collective pattern of displacements
describing oscillations with time. The phases (or the real and imaginary components) are important, as they will describe
the atomic displacements with a form like
a_r * cos (omega*t) + a_i * sin (omega*t)
As suggested by Nishimatsu-san, please read a basic textbook about phonons (and normal modes of vibrations).
Best regards,
Xavier
On 18 Aug 2009, at 19:54, Emmanuel Arras wrote:
Thanks for the reference,
As I understand it, the comlpex phase it is simply the phase associated with the fourrier transform, that is the action of q.r in the primitive cell ( D(k)=D(-k)* ). So I would say it is useless since the information is already known via q and the atomic positions.
As for the absolute amplitude, it seems to be simply a renormalization factor taking into account the number of atoms, their mass and the frequency of the phonon.
Thank you again.
Takeshi NISHIMATSU a écrit :
Emmanuel,
You should read a basic textbook on solid state
physics and phonon. Par exemple, CHAPTER 3 of
"Theoretical Solid State Physics, Vol.1: Perfect
Lattices in Equilibrium" by William Jones and
Norman H. March.
when I compute phonons, for each mode, the atomique displacementvectors' coordinates are givenHint: D(k) and D(-k)
by complexe numbers (in anaddb.out,since my _PHVEC file is empty whatever eivec but
that'sanother problem). I get that the norm of these complexes are thecoordinates of the
atomique displacementvectors, but I wonder what is the meaning of the complexe phaseassociated.
:
Bonne chance,
--
Emmanuel ARRAS
L_Sim (Laboratoire de Simulation Atomistique)
SP2M / INAC
CEA Grenoble
tel : 00 33 (0)4 387 86862
- Re: [abinit-forum] phonons atomique displacements, complexe phase and amplitude, Emmanuel Arras, 08/18/2009
- Re: [abinit-forum] phonons atomique displacements, complexe phase and amplitude, Takeshi NISHIMATSU, 08/18/2009
- Re: [abinit-forum] phonons atomique displacements, complexe phase and amplitude, Emmanuel Arras, 08/18/2009
- Re: [abinit-forum] phonons atomique displacements, complexe phase and amplitude, Xavier Gonze, 08/18/2009
- Re: [abinit-forum] phonons atomique displacements, complexe phase and amplitude, Emmanuel Arras, 08/19/2009
- Re: [abinit-forum] phonons atomique displacements, complexe phase and amplitude, Xavier Gonze, 08/18/2009
- Re: [abinit-forum] phonons atomique displacements, complexe phase and amplitude, Emmanuel Arras, 08/18/2009
- Re: [abinit-forum] phonons atomique displacements, complexe phase and amplitude, Takeshi NISHIMATSU, 08/18/2009
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