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  • From: xenophon.krokidis@scienomics.com
  • To: forum@abinit.org
  • Cc: "Hill, Joerg-Ruediger" <Joerg-Ruediger.Hill@scienomics.com>
  • Subject: Re: [abinit-forum] Problem with symmetry finder
  • Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 08:45:43 +0000
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Dear Xavier,

Thank you for the support. I wanted also to know if the tolsym issue is also
responsible for the problem I see when I use the conventional cell (using
spgroup=203, spgorig=2 and checkprim=0). Indeed Abinit finds that the box
should contain 144 (that a primitive cell) atoms and not 576 (that of the
conventional cell). I should expect that Abinit would report the usual
message that the cell is not a primitive but would continue because of
checkprim=0.

Once again thanks for the very valuable and appreciated support.

Best regards,

Xenophon
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-----Original Message-----
From: Xavier Gonze <xavier.gonze@uclouvain.be>
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:27:26
To: <forum@abinit.org>
Subject: Re: [abinit-forum] Problem with symmetry finder

Dear Xenophon,

It is a numerical precision issue.

On 19 Mar 2010, at 12:27, Xenophon Krokidis wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> I am attaching here the input and output files of an Abinit
> calculation on the primitive cell of faujasite (space group FD-3,
> origin 2) with Abinit 5.8.4 and 6.0.2. In both cases the space group
> found is not correct. Furthermore, both Abinit versions differ:
> 5.8.4 finds at least a space group with less operations, while 6.0.2
> is not able to find a space group at all. In the second attachment
> there is the input for the same system, but this time using the
> conventional cell. Here Abinit fails with both versions to generate
> the full list of atoms.

I had a look at the primitive cell case.
If one uses

rprim 1.0000000000 0.0000000000 0.0000000000
0.5000000000 sqrt(0.75d0) 0.0000000000
0.5000000000 sqrt(0.083333333333d0)
sqrt(0.6666666666666d0)

or (even better)

rprim 0 sqrt(.5) sqrt(.5)
sqrt(.5) 0 sqrt(.5)
sqrt(.5) sqrt(.5) 0

The space group is correctly recognized.
Interestingly, with your original rprim,

rprim 1.0000000000 0.0000000000 0.0000000000
0.5000000000 0.8660254038 0.0000000000
0.5000000000 0.2886751346 0.8164965809
(that is accurate up to nine digits)
I would have expected the use of tolsym to allow ABINIT
to recognize the Bravais lattice. But I tested tolsym 1.e-3,
without success.
I will try to see what is problematic.

Best wishes,
Xavier

>
> Best regards,
>
> Xenophon
>
> <FAU_conventional.zip><FAU_primitive.zip><Xenophon_Krokidis.vcf>




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