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- From: Xavier Gonze <gonze@pcpm.ucl.ac.be>
- To: forum@abinit.org
- Subject: Re: [abinit-forum] So small conductivity
- Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 16:34:47 +0200
Dear Bohdan,
Could you try to use "optics" also (see Test_v4#57) ?
Xavier
Bohdan Andriyevsky wrote:
Dear Konstantin,
Thank you very much for your reply and advices.
Because the spectrum epsilon''(E) of my crystal calculated agrees well with
experimental data (band gap Eg and positions of maxima), there is no need to
use "scissor" operator. In the DFT-based calculations the calculated Eg is
often smaller than the experimental one. Therefore, the epsilon'(E=0)
calculated is often greater than the experimental one. But in the case of my
crystal, the epsilon'(E=0) calculated using epsilon''(E) and
Kramers-Kronig's relation (1.4) is much more smaller than the experimental
one an the same value obtained from the RF calculation using the 'abinit'
(2.5). So I have obtained two different magnitudes of epsilon'(E=0) (1.4 and
2.5 ) using 'abinis'+'conducti'+Kramers-Kronig relation from one hand, and
using 'abinis' with RF-calculations form the other hand. Therefore, I
believe, that one of the possible reason of this discrepancy can be a small
bag in the 'conducti' program: the correct values of epsilon''(E) must be
'pi' (3.1416) greater than the present one. Of course, I plan to verify this
with other crystals.
Regards,
B. Andriyevsky
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DSc. Bohdan Andriyevsky
Technical University of Koszalin
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Poland
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Konstantin Rushchanskii"
<Konstantin.Rushchanskii@physik.uni-regensburg.de>
To: <forum@abinit.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [abinit-forum] So small conductivity
Dear Bohdan,
I think, there are two reasons for your problem:
1. Be sure your results are well converged with respect to k-points mesh
and Ecuts
2. When you use LDA for the band structure investigations, be carefull,
because LDA typically underestimates the band gap. For ionic crystals
the underestimation is about 2/3 of experimental value, but for covalent
crystals with strong anisotropy and with the presence of Wan der Vaals
interaction and/or hydrogen bonding (I suppose this all is present in
your crystal), the underestimation of the LDA results are not
predictible. You have at least two possibility to treat this
incostistance:
a. If you want a purely ab initio results, you can obtain the band
structure in GW approach. ABINIT can do this, but (as far as I know)
only for centrosymmetrical crystals. But for your crystal it is
computationally VERY COMPLICATED procedure.
b. If you have some experimental data about Eg, you can apply so
called "scissors" operator (rigid shift of all conduction bands with
respect to experimentally observed Eg). This correction is very usefull
for dielectric properties of the crystals. In ABINIT you can apply this
correction by "sciss" input variable.
Any way, you cannot expect very good coincidense between
experimental and theoretical results for these quantities.
I hope, this helps.
Sincerely,
K.Rushchanskii
Dear Abinit Users,
When I have calculated the conductivity spectrum g(E) of my crystal (Eg >
5 eV) using the 'abinis' and 'conducti' exe-files, I have calculated the
imaginary part of the dielectric permittivity epsilon'' using the relation:
g=2*pi*f*epsilon0*epsilon'' , where f=E/h (h=6.62E-34 is Planck
constant), and epsilon0=8.85E-12.
The structure of the spectrum epsilon''(E) obtained agrees well with the
corresponding experimental data. Then I have calculated the real part of the
dielectric permittivity epsilon'(E) using the known Kramers-Kronig relation:
epsilon'(E)-1=(2/pi)*integral{[t*epsilon''(t)*dt]/[t^2-E^2]}.
The magnitude of the epsilon'(0)=1.4 obtained by this calculation is much
smaller than the experimental one and the analogous magnitude obtained from
the RF calculations (2.5) using the Abinit.
Maybe anyone already has done similar analysis? I will be thankful for
any advices to resolve my problem.
Regards,
Bohdan Andriyevsky
--
K.Rushchanskii, Dr.
Theoretische Physik, Universität Regensburg
93040 Regensburg Germany
tel: +49 (0) 941-943-2466 fax: +49 (0) 941-943-4382
- So small conductivity, Bohdan Andriyevsky, 04/02/2005
- Re: [abinit-forum] So small conductivity, Konstantin Rushchanskii, 04/05/2005
- Re: [abinit-forum] So small conductivity, Bohdan Andriyevsky, 04/05/2005
- Re: [abinit-forum] So small conductivity, Xavier Gonze, 04/05/2005
- Re: [abinit-forum] So small conductivity, Bohdan Andriyevsky, 04/05/2005
- Re: [abinit-forum] So small conductivity, Konstantin Rushchanskii, 04/05/2005
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