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- From: Philippe Ghosez <Philippe.Ghosez@ulg.ac.be>
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- Subject: Re: [abinit-forum] 5.4.3 - better at static dielectric constant?
- Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:20:52 +0200
Dear Nicola,
the computation of Z* in zero field for ALL the atoms in the unit cell was already
previously accessible by linear response from the ddk and electric field
perturbation ONLY : i.e. calculation of the optical dielectric constant is also providing
the Z* on all the atoms in the same run using a non-stationary expression with no
need to displace all the uniquivalent atoms independently). Except if I missed something
I do not think the new implementation helps here.
Now I agree that the calculation of Z* in finite field provides an interesting alternative
way (to computation of third-derivatives by linear response) for the Raman
efficiencies since the dchi/dtau can be alternatively written dZ*/dE and are now
easily accessible by finite diffirence as shown in the paper of Xinjie.
By the way, was this new feature implemented also for spin-polarized systems?
Best wishes,
Philippe.
On 05 Sep 2007, at 05:57, Nicola Marzari wrote:
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One side comment - it can become more efficient if the unit cell contains many inequivalent atoms.
Suppose you have 100 atoms - usually, you would need to displace each of them, one by one, in the three crystallographic directions, and
calculate the resulting polarization (this can be done either with
linear-response theory, i.e. as the response to an infinitesimal displacement, or with the Berry phase, as the response to a finite one).
Instead, you can apply a small electric field three times (in 3 non equivalent directions), and you have right away the effective charges for all the 100 atoms. Similar considerations apply, say, if you wanted
to calculate Raman couplings.
nicola
Xinjie Wang wrote:
Hi David,
This feature (B.10) does not give more efficient/accurate calculations
of the static dielectric properties. It allows the calculation of
electric-field-dependence of Born effective charges and dielectric tensor. You can read this paper, Phys. Rev. B 75, 115116 (2007),
for details.
Regards,
Xinjie
david.hendry@mandmd.com.au wrote:
Dear Abinitors,
I'm interested in the static dielectric constant of ceramics/insulators. I notice the latest release notes of Abinit: "B.10 Born effective charges and dielectric tensor calculations can now be computed in a finite electric field." Does this feature or any other new feature (from 5.3.4) allow a more efficient/accurate calculation of the static dielectric properties?
Sincerely,
David.
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- 5.4.3 - better at static dielectric constant?, david . hendry, 09/05/2007
- Re: [abinit-forum] 5.4.3 - better at static dielectric constant?, Xinjie Wang, 09/05/2007
- Re: [abinit-forum] 5.4.3 - better at static dielectric constant?, Nicola Marzari, 09/05/2007
- Re: [abinit-forum] 5.4.3 - better at static dielectric constant?, Xinjie Wang, 09/05/2007
- Re: [abinit-forum] 5.4.3 - better at static dielectric constant?, Philippe Ghosez, 09/05/2007
- RE: [abinit-forum] 5.4.3 - better at static dielectric constant?, David Hendry, 09/06/2007
- Re: [abinit-forum] 5.4.3 - better at static dielectric constant?, Philippe Ghosez, 09/06/2007
- Re: [abinit-forum] 5.4.3 - better at static dielectric constant?, Xavier Gonze, 09/06/2007
- Re: [abinit-forum] 5.4.3 - better at static dielectric constant?, Philippe Ghosez, 09/06/2007
- RE: [abinit-forum] 5.4.3 - better at static dielectric constant?, David Hendry, 09/06/2007
- Re: [abinit-forum] 5.4.3 - better at static dielectric constant?, Nicola Marzari, 09/05/2007
- Re: [abinit-forum] 5.4.3 - better at static dielectric constant?, Xinjie Wang, 09/05/2007
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